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 Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 2:35 pm Post subject: Hilary tells Bill to button it. |
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| Quote: | WASHINGTON (AP) — Former President Clinton has added to the falsehoods surrounding his wife's tale of her trip to Bosnia 12 years ago. In Indiana on Thursday, Bill Clinton defended his wife's mistake in claiming that she landed under sniper fire in Bosnia, accusing the media of treating her like "she'd robbed a bank" for confusing the facts.
The New York senator had repeatedly described a harrowing scene in Tuzla, Bosnia, in which she and her daughter, Chelsea, had to run for cover as soon as they landed for a visit in 1996. Video footage of the day instead showed a peaceful reception in which an 8-year-old girl greeted the first lady.
Hillary Clinton has acknowledged that she got the facts wrong in retelling the tale. Bill Clinton's inaccuracies don't involve long-ago memories, but misstatements about how his wife has handled the story. |
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gp2-k7WlRkHi_F2yqB54afSE7fkgD8VVSKO00
| Quote: | | She's also told her husband to quit talking about it. |
I'd love to have been a fly on the wall for that conversation. 
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| Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 3:18 pm Post subject: |
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This is not the first time that Senator Clinton has been caught out telling a brazen, self-aggrandising lie. The Senator once claimed that she had been named after the late Sir Edmund Hillary, despite that fact that Sir Edmund did not climb Mount Everest until more than five years after she was born.
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| Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 3:27 pm Post subject: |
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| Blue you should know by now when the Clinton's are involved it is not classed as lying, just "misspeaking" . |
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| Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 3:33 pm Post subject: |
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I actually really hope she wins the Democratic nomination because John McCain will wipe the floor with her.
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| Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 3:39 pm Post subject: |
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| I think that it what a lot of us are afraid of. |
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| Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 3:40 pm Post subject: |
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You'd seriously rather have Senator Clinton or Barack Obama?
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I like Obama, I have always veered towards Democrats based on their Gun Control, Abortion and Death Penalty policies. In saying that the issue of the war and the economy seem to be much more pressing .
Clinton getting in doesn't bear thinking about.
My views are certainly biased on McCain given his views on the Railway Labor act.
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The biggest problems with McCain is he has no qualms about continuing the Bush administration's policies in Iraq and he is owned by corporate America much more so than he is letting on. If McCain wins not much is going to change here in the next 4 years.
I'm a fan of Obama myself, I think he will do a good job if elected. I would vote for Hillary were she the one to get the nomination though. She really is very smart, I think that her ambitions have overshadowed her true abilities and she just ends up looking like some mad power hungry harpy.
I thought Bill Clinton was looking very presidential when he was hanging out with George Bush the elder and they were traveling the world making it safe for democracy, but as of late he more resembles the drunk at the party moments before he decides a lampshade would make a good hat. |
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Well, just on the basis of that article, I'd probably support Senator McCain - being now fan of the union movement in this country.
I admit that his position on gun control is mixed. He has pledged to uphold the 2nd Amendment if elected president, but is not a wholly uncritical ally of the gun lobby. His views on abortion largely agree with my own, so I can hardly fault him there. His support for capital punishment is my only serious disagreement with him.
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| kitchenwitch wrote: | | but as of late he more resembles the drunk at the party moments before he decides a lampshade would make a good hat. |
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I'm afraid I regard Senator Obama's position on Iraq as deeply flawed. I heard him say somewhere recently "It's not too late to stop the war". What planet is he living on? Of course it's too late. If Senator Obama becomes the next US President and pulls out of Iraq it will be the most disgraceful chapter in American history!
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| BlueEmperor wrote: | Well, just on the basis of that article, I'd probably support Senator McCain - being now fan of the union movement in this country.
I admit that his position on gun control is mixed. He has pledged to uphold the 2nd Amendment if elected president, but is not a wholly uncritical ally of the gun lobby. His views on abortion largely agree with my own, so I can hardly fault him there. His support for capital punishment is my only serious disagreement with him.
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I grew up in a very anti union household and spent many years fighting with the IBEW (electrical union) in the NY area but I have also seen the benefits from ALPA (pilots union) benefits which protect the flying public.
I firmly believe that the most disgraceful chapter in American History will be going into Iraqi in the first place.
I am really not sure what the answer is now, the cost of Iraqi has been (and continues to be ) too high but how can we just pull and leave now ?? |
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I was a supporter of the Iraq War. Does that mean I am perfectly happy with the way things have gone? Far from it. It's a right cake and arse party! I don't share all the doom and gloom that the anti-war crowd seem to revel in and I think that General Patraeus' Surge seems to be reaping benefits. I can only conclude, therefore, that we need to stay the course.
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| I have tremendous respect for General Patraeus and Dr Gates but I feel that they are being hindered in many ways by this administration. How can they go out into the ME and try to gain support for "democracy" etc whilst having issues like Guantanamo tying their hands. |
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On that we certainly agree.
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| JC wrote: | | BlueEmperor wrote: | Well, just on the basis of that article, I'd probably support Senator McCain - being now fan of the union movement in this country.
I admit that his position on gun control is mixed. He has pledged to uphold the 2nd Amendment if elected president, but is not a wholly uncritical ally of the gun lobby. His views on abortion largely agree with my own, so I can hardly fault him there. His support for capital punishment is my only serious disagreement with him.
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I grew up in a very anti union household and spent many years fighting with the IBEW (electrical union) in the NY area but I have also seen the benefits from ALPA (pilots union) benefits which protect the flying public.
I firmly believe that the most disgraceful chapter in American History will be going into Iraqi in the first place.
I am really not sure what the answer is now, the cost of Iraqi has been (and continues to be ) too high but how can we just pull and leave now ?? |
The US can pull out any time - all others too - because regardless of when they leave Iraq will be lost to democracy.
It will be an Islamic Republic without the allies propping up the puppet government.
It strikes me as odd that Former President Clinton's sexual antics seeem to provoke more disdain than GW Bush's unprovoked attack on Iraq.
One wonders what the approach to the serial unprovoked attacker but sexually clean living Hitler would be these days.
Still it is no business of mine who ends up running the USA - the damage is done now.
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| leutnant wrote: | | One wonders what the approach to the serial unprovoked attacker but sexually clean living Hitler would be these days. |
Errm, I think you'll find he was far from 'sexually clean living'.
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| Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 6:48 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="leutnant"] | JC wrote: |
It strikes me as odd that Former President Clinton's sexual antics seeem to provoke more disdain than GW Bush's unprovoked attack on Iraq.
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I didn't care what Clinton got up to sexually, that was between his wife and him. I do care about a President bare faced lying to a nation and impeding a court case.
At the very least he made a mockery of the oath of office he took. |
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| Vintage Girl wrote: | | leutnant wrote: | | One wonders what the approach to the serial unprovoked attacker but sexually clean living Hitler would be these days. |
Errm, I think you'll find he was far from 'sexually clean living'. |
Cleaner than Clinton and the Kennedys. Mind you he couldn't shag about as he only had one ball as everyone knows.
I don't care who becomes the US president - they are all awful
I do care that the current administration's economic mismanagement is going to take us all down into recession - but even that is the fault of the UK government for being more into the US than Europe. The Euro is not fading like the Dollar and Sterling. Wrong horse well and truly backed there Mr Brown.
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| Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 12:51 am Post subject: |
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| BlueEmperor wrote: | This is not the first time that Senator Clinton has been caught out telling a brazen, self-aggrandising lie. The Senator once claimed that she had been named after the late Sir Edmund Hillary, despite that fact that Sir Edmund did not climb Mount Everest until more than five years after she was born.
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Perhaps not much more ridiculous than Obama's claiming that his parents fell in love at a civil rights event in Selma that occurred when he was four years old! |
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| JuanaLaLoca wrote: | | BlueEmperor wrote: | This is not the first time that Senator Clinton has been caught out telling a brazen, self-aggrandising lie. The Senator once claimed that she had been named after the late Sir Edmund Hillary, despite that fact that Sir Edmund did not climb Mount Everest until more than five years after she was born.
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Perhaps not much more ridiculous than Obama's claiming that his parents fell in love at a civil rights event in Selma that occurred when he was four years old! |
Perhaps they were only very good friends until then 
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