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Vintage Girl Moderator

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Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 10:21 pm Post subject: US to tighten visa restrictions |
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| Quote: | The US is to tighten visa restrictions to allow it to screen all short-term visitors from Japan and Western Europe.
US Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff said visitors to the US who do not need visas will be required to register with the government online.
The security regulation, set to begin next year, will require visitors to register three days before they visit.
The online registration will remain valid for a two-year period, Mr |
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7434374.stm
Is this sensible pecautin on the part of the US or paranoia?
What are your thoughts? _________________ Girls are like phones. We love to be held and talked to, but if you press the wrong button you'll be disconnected! |
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BlueEmperor Moderator

Joined: 07 Nov 2006 Posts: 1065 Location: Essex, England
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Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 10:27 pm Post subject: |
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It's tempting to dismiss it as paranoia but, in these uncertain times, it's hard to argue against it. The online registration lasts you for two years, which seems quite reasonable really.
B.E. _________________ The doctor is in! |
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SilverMiniCooperS Inmate of the Asylum

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Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 12:49 am Post subject: |
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I agree with Blue - many will view it as bureaucracy run amok, but on the other hand....
I think the three day requirement is pushing it though. I just can't see them being able to fully screen applicants in that short time. There is something I don't quite understand though. I could have sworn that Klaus' sister, Traudel, had to get a visa last time she came here four years ago.
| Quote: | The security regulation, set to begin next year, will require visitors to register three days before they visit.
The online registration will remain valid for a two-year period, Mr Chertoff said.
He said the changes - which will affect citizens of the 27 countries currently listed under the US visa waiver programme - will allow the US to screen visitors before they travel. |
Another thing is the requirement that folk have to do this online. They are people who do not have computers, or know how to use them. Traudel is one of them, and wouldn't even know how to turn one on. Travel agents will most likely have to offer this service. |
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kitchenwitch Inmate of the Asylum

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Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 5:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | That information includes passport number, country of residence, and any involvement in terror activities.
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Do they expect a truthful answer to any involvement in terror activities?
I'm sure requiring people to register online just puts you into the data base and cuts out a lot of work for the government lackeys having to type that stuff in. |
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Merak Inmate of the Asylum
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Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 11:11 am Post subject: |
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| SilverMiniCooperS wrote: | | Travel agents will most likely have to offer this service. |
...and charge £20 or something for each person no doubt.  |
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Vintage Girl Moderator

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Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 11:14 am Post subject: |
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I'm sure you're right Merak. They'll see it as one more opportunity to turn a fast buck. _________________ Girls are like phones. We love to be held and talked to, but if you press the wrong button you'll be disconnected! |
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Merak Inmate of the Asylum
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Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 11:43 am Post subject: |
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| another rip off with tour operators is charging a percentage of the total holiday cost when you do it online by card. We'd something like an £80 charge slapped on ours last year cause I paid it by VISA. I rang them as well and asked them what that's about - a transaction is a transaction, it doesn't cost anymore to process a transaction for £1000 than one for £100, so why isn't there a flat fee of a couple of quid? They said that that was the amt VISA charged them... so I spoke to VISA via email who said that was rubbish cause VISA wasn't charging them anything. I meant to send the dets of that to the OFT and never got round to it in the end. It's a disgrace though! |
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Vintage Girl Moderator

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Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 4:19 pm Post subject: |
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I have to say that when I looked into the possibility of being able to accept credit cards for my small business VISA did charge the merchant 2% on every transaction and you had to rent the machine.
It was a few years ago mind you so whether it's changed now I don't know. _________________ Girls are like phones. We love to be held and talked to, but if you press the wrong button you'll be disconnected! |
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SilverMiniCooperS Inmate of the Asylum

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Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 12:44 am Post subject: |
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| Years ago, all the credit card companies charged the merchant for the privilege of accepting their cards. American Express were the worst. They also would charge you according to how long you were willing to wait for your money. The longer you could wait, the less the charge. |
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Mpls Druid Inmate of the Asylum

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Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 5:38 am Post subject: |
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| That's dispicable! |
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Merak Inmate of the Asylum
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Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 2:24 pm Post subject: |
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Maybe VISA told me a porkie cause they definately said it wasn't the case. Even if they are charging, something odd is going on cause on some sites you pay a flat charge of £3 or whatever for paying by credit card, yet on that tour operator site we used we got charged £80. Something definately not right about that. Even if you look at ryanair or easyjet sites, it's a flat fee for credit card transactions, and they're the biggest money grabbing sods in town, so if it really was 2% of the transaction value that VISA charged, I'm pretty sure ryan air and the like would be ensuring the customer picks up the tab and not them.  |
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